Enjoying my first week back in unemployment, fat redundancy check to come this week, I think I’ll start the weekend on thursday 🙂 Have a good weekend party people!

@Moonie 466784 wrote:

Enjoying my first week back in unemployment, fat redundancy check to come this week, I think I’ll start the weekend on thursday 🙂 Have a good weekend party people!

Ahh shit man sry to hear that … what happened?

I worked in the pits at BSB for a season 😉

Daft, my boss got caught doing 142mph and lost his license, and commercial insurance on a van for a 19 year old with driving convictions is basically a non-starter. Still owes me 2 months wages and there’s not much I can do about it, the guy’s a psycho

@Moonie 466894 wrote:

I worked in the pits at BSB for a season 😉

Daft, my boss got caught doing 142mph and lost his license, and commercial insurance on a van for a 19 year old with driving convictions is basically a non-starter. Still owes me 2 months wages and there’s not much I can do about it, the guy’s a psycho

TBH sounds like he’s pretty much fucked anyway as that sort of mistake tends to bankrupt small businesses and even though I think you are preferred creditor or something like that it might not be for all the wages…

and if they you were being paid late to start with then sounds like the company is in financial trouble. at least you are getting your redundancy payment but its because of things like this I am a lot more careful about my lifestyle nowadays as I work in a very senior role in a small business and a serious fuck up on my part could easily take down 3 companies and 150 peoples jobs with it (many people with families or who have come to this country for that job leaving their own kids/partner behind) – its the sort of fuck up where I would have to flee the country TBH… Its also why I do security/resilience audits on potential suppliers…

only younger person I know who might know about insurance etc is m45k1 on TL but he’s in his mid 20s now and drives very carefully and safely so I think he’s got a clean license..

Thing is if he can’t drive and can’t recruit other staff quickly that business will soon go under and a case like that tends to get reported in the local rags (TVP also leak out info, I’m sure one private employer found out about me getting arrested a while back via a dodgy method) and it can cost customers. Its why I keep out of trouble nowadays as where I live people boycott businesses what employ criminals, including minor ones (a big problem for the staff at Hollesley Bay who are trying to rehabilitate them).

Even cash in the bank or other cash reserves doesn’t always show things like personal debts especially to HM Revenue and Customs, and they are tenacious and prepared to deal with psychos to get their money. Nowadays they aren’t armed (though have authority to be) they do use armed police / SOCA to back them up when required and have more right of entry than Old Bill as they’ve been around longer and have people trying to bomb them every other week (same as most govt departments).

A lot of small business owners don’t always separate their personal and business finances properly and can come unstuck due to a number of complicated legal issues.

This is also why a lot of other businesses tend to be wary of small businesses run by the kind of “stubborn indepdent small businessperson”, there are a fair few psychos in these companies.

Many are in jobs requiring manual / physical work but even then not all look particularly hard or scarey, for instance one what assaulted his ex’s new partner was actually the last person even I thought would do such a thing (whilst there are also many people who are all mouth and no action) – you also come across big angry looking blokes who in fact spend their spare time rescuing lost pets or flower arranging! Also “professional” psychopaths (in something like accountancy or IT) often do things like defraud companies after years of working otherwise perfectly for them or take unneccesary risks with customers simply for fun and because its not outwardly violent its often hard to spot. However a surprising amount of accountants do actually keep guns (usually licensed) and now and then do shoot people they have disagreed with… West Berks was quite bad for that. Also women can be as bad if not worse than men for sketchy behaviour and sabotage in the workplace, I trust very few people and don’t have real “friends” at work and even outside am very wary but its worth it to advance my career as things could be a lot worse for someone my age.

In medium to large companies security procedures tend to weed out many of the more sketchy folk (this is why they ask really wierd random questions on application forms or at interviews) unless they are intellectually clever enough to get round them (you do for instance get a few people from BT what snap under pressure, there was a workplace murder/sucide there recently, and an Openreach engineer battered and badly injured a rival footy supporter in front of his own Dad (and loads of other witnesses) at Portman Road (his Dad was so shocked he gave evidence in Court for the prosecution).

There are real dangers as a fair few self made businessmen even from the “middle classes” who have fallen on bad times have wiped out their own family and torched the house/business premises (so the creditors get nothing) rather than give in, one shot every living creature including 60 chickens – and they will treat their own flesh and blood like that they don’t give a shit about employees or customers, and often even the feds can’t do anything other than clear up the mess after the incident has happened as other than maybe the odd traffic offence most of them have relatively clean records.

I was actually at the BT research place recently and whilst its not as full on as it once was they are very security aware, I couldn’t even have got away with photographing a long egg that was served at breakfast – but they have laid off a lot of people yet kept on various foreign contractors and there are plenty of former employees there what could easily make a bomb if they wanted to and try and blame it on rival religion/multiculturalism..

you will probably be OK after 25 for insurance but most employers would be more concerned about the theft bit – I’m so fucking glad now I didn’t go down that route as I came close enough after narrowly failing my driving test in the 90s, its bad enough with my drugs record for some jobs (there are many other ways of finding out about peoples pasts without using CRB). Even though I wouldn’t have nicked someones main car, “nicking” two scrap/abandoned ones (even if no one else actually wants them) and putting them together to make a working one still got classed as TWOC (on top of all the other offences) by TVP when they caught up with you…

Also lot of the cleverer guys get away with violence because its less expected of them, but eventually do end up badly hurting or murdering someone and go to prison. I am lucky myself that I’ve managed to stop myself from it as though I’m not big I’m prepared to use any sort of improvised weapon if need be and its only the law and career what keeps me on the right track. plus I have very few enemies in near 40 years of life (less than 5 and one is dead anyway (self inflicted overdose))

TBH I suspect many more men are like that deep down and can snap under pressure hence why the economic depression is causing more violence and companies have hard security procedures.

When i lived in Reading (more on the border between Reading and S Oxon) I came back sunday afternoon after a rave and there was bare sirens going off everywhere and mum said “is that the cops shutting down the rave”?

I said “nah, we finished safely and they let everyone go, its probably some toff shooting his wife and kids after a domestic” – and indeed it turned out to be just that, he he had brought a rifle to the Sunday family barbecue and blasted up his family (later committed suicide in prison). was in a really posh area too.

the market for tree surgeons is same here we’ve got this old boy at work who does this (I get him to do the trees in my garden as I I know little about them) and also i know the decent travellers who do good work (there are some) as I help them fix their computers. I think I mentioned one of them to you when you wanted a van as he’s a really good chap for honest advice. but he’s a bit older than me so got the automatic entitlement to 7 500kg vehicle and thus drives real carefully and has all proper VOSA license as he doesn’t want to lose this.

@Clusterfrog 467001 wrote:

Don’t wish your life away

TBH Moonie’s probably way better off not working for a nutter like that, especially on a job what can be dangerous. young people do actually get killed that way and often through stupidity / greed rather than overt malice from their management, just recently a lad not much older (but already a father) had been sent to work 200 miles away in the roof space of this right on yoghurt weaver organic farm in SE England (Brighton).

Not sure what his trade was or why on earth that supposedly right on company was getting tradesmen from North Essex when Brighton has lots of young people needing work – but the combination of a 5am start to travel 200 miles and inevitable tiredness (1 year old kids tend to wake up in the night and need feeding etc) meant the poor bugger didn’t notice a energised 230V cable in the roof space and was electrocuted. HSE and feds are investigating and a friendly old chap I know asked me to look into the case so he can avoid such risks and make things safer for his younger staff, but it won’t bring that lad back..

Nuthing like a new day to get ur life heading down a new road
Seen a quote similar to that in the vanilla sky movie, liked that part, hated the movie lmao

@Fizzbombheid 467239 wrote:

moonie is a bad lad Eek!

HE’S NOT COMING OUT, HE’S A VERY NAUGHTY BOY!