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January 20, 2011 at 7:53 pm #1050311
Really really interesting series!
Pavlov experiments etc and historical look at how behaviourial psychology evolved – with some pretty horrific and shocking experiments!!! :yakk:
well worth a watch though on iplayer
January 20, 2011 at 8:28 pm #1234880[YT]vJG698U2Mvo[/YT]
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January 20, 2011 at 8:48 pm #1234872Anonymous
Hi Tank Girl ,
I just failed the selective test and missed the thing mentioned at the end lol …..thats mad i thought i was quite observant …..i guess im not lolregards
MungoJanuary 20, 2011 at 9:42 pm #1234881[YT]CU9jKlNK1Qc[/YT]
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January 20, 2011 at 10:02 pm #1234885That is so sad. Humans are so fucked
January 20, 2011 at 10:06 pm #1234873Hi Tank Girl ,
So we are a product of our enviroment from when we grow up ? It’s all interesting stuff , bit scary that 2/3 of people delivered the fatal electric shock in that test …..even though it wasn’t real although they didn’t know that !!!regards
MungoJanuary 22, 2011 at 10:30 am #1234876The elctric shock experiment (if I remember correctly) was originally designed following WW2 to demonstrate that Germans are more likely to kill people when ordered to than Americans… it turns out Americans are even more likely!!
I love that attention test – I am doing a PhD on Attention at the mo and its a messy old subject with lots of unanswered questions.
As for being a product of our environment… I’m afraid so. I wrote my undergraduate dissertation on Free Will, basically arguing that we have a certain amount of freedom to make decisions etc. The more I study now, the less I believe it. I think we just rewact to the environment without putting much thought into it. I used to think that if we try hard enough we can change the way we react, but now I wonder where the idea to change came from? You guessed it – our environment!!
Aaaarrrgh!! I AM A ROBOT I AM A ROBOT I AM A ROBOT I AM A ROBOT I AM A ROBOT!!
January 22, 2011 at 1:30 pm #1234882@TEK Tonic 417096 wrote:
The elctric shock experiment (if I remember correctly) was originally designed following WW2 to demonstrate that Germans are more likely to kill people when ordered to than Americans… it turns out Americans are even more likely!!
I love that attention test – I am doing a PhD on Attention at the mo and its a messy old subject with lots of unanswered questions.
yeh – it was – and the response we have to ‘obeying authority’ – scarey stuff – there was also the prison environment one – will try and find it
and your PHD sounds fascinating – hard work I bet! :group_hug
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January 22, 2011 at 1:38 pm #1234877PhD’in ain’t easy 😉
I don’t torture monkeys or get people to do anything too distressing (just press keys on a keyboard in response to numbers on a screen for 2 hours at a time which is a bit draining!).
Its hard work (particularly at the moment what with deadlines etc) but I am still enjoying it… mainly!
January 22, 2011 at 1:47 pm #1234878One of the lecturers where I study was involved in the BBC re-make of the prison experiment.
Unfortunately I don’t rate it because they put TV cameras in there which changes everything. The original experiment is often cited as a serious break of ethics, but I don’t think we would know what we know if it wasn’t for the courage of his convictions. Getting teh BBC involved made the whole experiment a bit like Big Brother for scientists.
The ethical considerations that are now in place are good and I agree with them and they keep people safe, but there are benefits to working outside of them.
Its Health and Safety gone mad innit!
Having said that, you should hear some of the stuff that goes on in our Uni in the name of Science (electric shocks, stressing people out, Trancranial Magnetic Stimulation)… and its all completely ethical!
January 22, 2011 at 4:47 pm #1234874Hi Tek Tonic ,
I agree what you say , it’s good that there are more ethics now and that the more harsher experiments dont take place . However if the old ones were not done then would we have the knowledge that we have now , and because we do how many peoples lives have changed for the better ……loads i should imagine .Not to much different to surgens getting dead bodies dug up to open them up and see what the organs inside look like . It was illegal even back then but the knowledge that was learnt was invaluable to the surgeons understanding how things work .
These Doctor/Professors were brave people as they must have known that they would be hated by most , yet the went ahead and did it for the benefit of many . That said it’s all fine unless your the one being experimented on :-O . There is that saying the need of the many out weigh the needs of the few , wether you agree or not the one thing that can’t be denied is people have since benifited from such experiments .Interesting stuff , yet scary to …..we all have an inner Hitler inside of us :-O …….or the opposite florence nightingale ……which one will you choose ? 🙂
regards
Mungo
ps florence nightingale i’d rather wear a nurse’s uniform than a Nazi uniform lolJanuary 22, 2011 at 7:12 pm #1234884@the1log 417150 wrote:
made me feel a bit queesy at times thought
yeh –
I was suprised I felt a bit queezy watching the brain ops,
and I’ve watched loads of surgery (in the operating theatre) and really enjoy it!think it was because it was a brain and what might happen to the lady if it went wrong..
January 23, 2011 at 11:17 am #1234879Agreed Mungo…. nurses are better than nazis!
January 23, 2011 at 4:14 pm #1234875i just finished the first half of my psychology course.. in the exam, i used harlow’s monkeys as evidence in about 40% of the questions 😀 the examiner is prolly thinking.. wow, this girl doesn’t know much about anything else.
i just got onto the social psychology module, and we look at the electric shock study. i thought it was really interesting, i’d like to say i wouldn’t go that far and cause people harm but we never know.
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