Haha he got it spot on! :laugh_at:

:laugh_at::laugh_at: superb!

(Advance apologies for a rant)

No, he’s still a complete bellend. You should see the video of him starting on the photographer, the poor bloke’s about 65, and JK is there with his army of security, and he still gets floored!

What has he got to say about music either? In my opinion he’s just as bad as they are, and only good for middle of the road, boring twat-pop. He’s a spoilt rich kid with a major ego problem and no principles.

Only video I can find, sorry about the people talking over it, but honestly, what a cunt.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRKc_AgAniI

“Who touched my new motor car?”

Spoilt wanker can’t even fight back without his entourage getting on the case.

Seriously mate I’m pretty sure that you won’t get my point without watching it.

There’s nothing wrong with being rich and certainly with not being hard, but there is alot wrong with walking around flashing your money in everyone’s faces and acting like a hard man, being overly aggressive, only to have your gorillas do the dirty for you.

Also, there were no aggressors except him. Security only stepped in after about half an hour of his appauling behaviour, when someone gave him what was coming to him.

Looks like a jumped up dickhead, im glad he got headbutted. Some people need to realise how small they actully are, he will be a semi rich nobody in 20 years time.

@1984 414449 wrote:

but the quality will suffer 🙁

thats not a disaster compared to many other things happening in the world.

@1984 414458 wrote:

hmmm I dunno man that seems like a hell of a generalisation to say if you let artists agos run riot (and how do you define that) you end up with rappers shooting each other. I think there are far more significant factors than that, largly socio-economic.

the “socio economic” factors are no excuse – plenty of people live on Londonistan estates in poor conditions and don’t shoot one another. There are plenty of fairly well off artists who have been busted for all sorts of crime including violent crime. it is becoming part of the culture of the pop music scenes.

The mobo afterparty got locked off because people started fighting there and most of these were established “professional” artists. There are reports of bullying, violence and class A drugs use on the West End and Harry Potter film sets.

its really simple to define what behaviour amongst “artists” or anyone else is acceptable – we have a rule of law in this country and they obey it like anyone else does or face the consequences. At least even Dappy out of N-Dubz shows some remorse and contrition when he does something stupid (which seems to be fairly often..) as he knows not just his career but his bandmates and everything his late father sacrificed his life for will be fucked up if he’s not careful.

@1984 414462 wrote:

I didn’t say it was an excuse I said it was a significant factor. Nothing excuses such things, but to engore or over simplify the reasons is not exactly going to get society very far.

I don’t think its oversimplification, the media has become too tolerant of certain “art forms” (such as the Guardian and even the EDP24(!!) bigging up grime and glossing over the bad aspects) and the bad behaviour of celebrities and its trickling down to wider society, and creating a backlash even in the towns. Society is already going backwards, the will of the people has re-elected a Tory Government who are going to clamp down a lot on the music industry and nightlife soon particularly live performances, and reintroduce forms of censorship that those in their 20s may not have seen.

@1984 414465 wrote:

One persons backwards is another persons forwards. Infinate shades of grey over black and white.

I dont think we will agree on this one but its always good to hear other peoples perspectives. I will mull it over as per 🙂

I wouldn’t class the return of 1980s licensing hours and media controls as going forward TBH but people have brought it on themselves.

Anyway when rock stars egos get too big karma does sort them out in the end like what happened to Lennon!

That said I do not think pop stars being shot is a particularly good thing and we thankfully do not have so many guns in UK – and celebs are more pragmatic over close protection nowadays (one consequence of the 1980 assasination), and to be fair the Met have done a bloody good job calming down the music-related violence in London..

However, as the economic depresion and inequalities get worse, I can easily foresee celebs what throw their weight around and/or flash their cash getting far worse than headbutts in the future!

@p0ly 414531 wrote:

Yeah i’ve been thinking the same thing for ages, but Simon Cowell isn’t a musician either but he’s in the top 10 highest earning people in music??

he turns the music into a marketable and profitable product which is where he makes his money. its the people like him what make the “celebs” and have the real power and money, but not all of them seek the limelight. a couple of old boys what do this died recently, one just died of old age, the other drowned in the Thames both of them were fucking loaded yet most folk would never have heard of either.

I think Cowell is even worse and X-factor is bare shite but at least its showing people who are smart enough to see the reality where the power really lies in the music/entertainment industry – it is not with the performer. They are expendable and disposable.

This might be OK for a bit when you are younger and have less to lose or a celeb who can buy their way out of trouble with close protection but even then its how a lot of people end up getting dragged into stupid situations, I think you are smart enough to avoid this but whats worse is when friends who would not do crime end up being dragged into a fight to defend one of these muppets and they get hurt or arrested. I see loads of incidents of this when doing my research into crimes…