Its legals or nothing now in East Anglia. There was Waveform and Unity Tribe but its now cops, sniffer dogs and an atmosphere of only being grudgingly endured despite forking out loads of money simply to be there.

its not just the cops but the whole of society has turned against the electronic dance music scene and next its the normal townie places what are going to be shut down. You are better off going to London or Up North for dance music events as these areas depend on the money from them now. The biggest irony is because EA makes a lot of easier money from traditional family tourism especially coast and countryside the music scene (including mainstream pop music!) is often more hassle than its worth as it attracts more crime.

Normal folk are becoming ashamed to even drink alcohol or stay out too late here, or they are just too tired from their day jobs to bother with socialising.

This time round the economic depression has made things worse, “they” always find money for cops and social control whatever happens and because of the 1990s and how stubborn people are in EA they won’t forgive and forget what happened last time raves were popular.

a group who attack the old bill station because their vehicle has come up on index for being known for metal theft would be viewed as criminals even in the most liberal of countries! even so, people possibly linked to them were allowed to hold Unity Tribe… thats not exactly the work of overly controlling authorities IMO….

there’s loads of other heavy stuff happening worldwide (not just economic depression but resource shortages) so people are going to have to balance fun with their other work/social duties a bit better than they did in the days of abundant energy and money…

Its the unfortunate truth. Things really have gone bad in just 3 years. I’m actually lucky because I’m older and got a house/career etc sorted and can tolerate a less hedonistic lifestyle (I do miss the parties)…

whats more worrying is it seems the groups of younger friends I know have drifted apart over the last 3 years and for some of them they really have had some bad setbacks in life and some have made it worse by overdoing the drugs.

On a wider note suffolkravas will be safer in Suffolk than LA when things really go to shit.. at least we’ve got the remnants of social welfare provisions and less nutters with guns.

@Buzz 399138 wrote:

the scene in england is so different to up here…..we never get anywhere near that ammount of hassle with the police. thats probably more to do with tighter restrictions on who is told about the parties though. the police can be dicks sometimes sure, but its about mutual respect, if your not causing a problem then most of the time the police will leave you alone.

the Scots ravers seem to be more of a genuine community than just a bunch of kids with access to cars, a lot of drugs/equipment and spare cash. However, Scotland is also much less densely populated than England and the parties are held in very remote areas indeed (I’ve seen a few online maps of the areas :wink:)

Even English crews used to have this mutual respect but people got complacent during the “good times” of 2003 onwards (a combination of more abundant resources and particularly good weather).

@General Lighting 399139 wrote:

the Scots ravers seem to be more of a genuine community than just a bunch of kids with access to cars, a lot of drugs/equipment and spare cash. However, Scotland is also much less densely populated than England and the parties are held in very remote areas indeed (I’ve seen a few online maps of the areas :wink:)

Even English crews used to have this mutual respect but people got complacent during the “good times” of 2003 onwards (a combination of more abundant resources and particularly good weather).

I dont know if i can really speak for the “scottish raver community” because the group of people i party with is pretty tight knit so theres less possibility of something happening because everyone knows each other. i dont like the sound of the english scene at all, gang problems and shit? no thanks. as far as location is concerned one of the spots we have parties is like 100 yards from a police station (one of the big county hq’s)