That’s slightly exaggerated to be fair.

Webhost have been involved, and their legal team. No police. Although who knows what could be the next step at this stage.

Why are the filth getting involved?

what the smegs going on here? anyone?

@GiantMidget 373944 wrote:

Why are the filth getting involved?

The squat juice crew? :laugh_at:

one’s got 3 more dots than the other

Someone on SJ has made allegations against others and has complained to SJ’s hosting company. This company may either ask SJ’s admins to remove the disputed content, or it might involve other authorities. SJ’s admins might decide to voluntarily close down the forum either temporarily or permanently, whilst this is done.

However at this present time a lot of this is being exaggerated, and when everything comes from a group of people known for spreading rumours for fun and using a variety of fake troll ID’s fuck knows what is actually to be believed…I’m not taking sides or commenting any further as no one seems to be giving any real details yet.

Either this will fizzle out completely (most likely) or various authorities might get involved, although even when things kick off between folk on forums the authorities usually only target the individuals instead of getting a entire site shut down. After all loads of peopel fight/argue and stalk each other using Facebook and Bebo and them sites don’t get shut down..

However hosting companies aren’t as protective of so-called “free speech” as many think, especially as a forum like SJ or even here.

Also the mods and admins of all these small forums have normal lives, families etc and there is a obvious point where they aren’t going to sacrifice all that so other people can fuck about with the resources they have paid for and share with others, particuarly if it can fuck up their personal life and reputation.

The bottom line is if people can’t play nicely, the playground might get taken away.

This could apply to here or any other non-corporate forum just as much as SJ so be aware.

@General Lighting 373963 wrote:

Someone on SJ has made allegations against others and has complained to SJ’s hosting company. This company may either ask SJ’s admins to remove the disputed content, or it might involve other authorities. SJ’s admins might decide to voluntarily close down the forum either temporarily or permanently, whilst this is done.

However at this present time a lot of this is being exaggerated, and when everything comes from a group of people known for spreading rumours for fun and using a variety of fake troll ID’s fuck knows what is actually to be believed…I’m not taking sides or commenting any further as no one seems to be giving any real details yet.

Either this will fizzle out completely (most likely) or various authorities might get involved, although even when things kick off between folk on forums the authorities usually only target the individuals instead of getting a entire site shut down. After all loads of peopel fight/argue and stalk each other using Facebook and Bebo and them sites don’t get shut down..

However hosting companies aren’t as protective of so-called “free speech” as many think, especially as a forum like SJ or even here.

Also the mods and admins of all these small forums have normal lives, families etc and there is a obvious point where they aren’t going to sacrifice all that so other people can fuck about with the resources they have paid for and share with others, particuarly if it can fuck up their personal life and reputation.

The bottom line is if people can’t play nicely, the playground might get taken away.

This could apply to here or any other non-corporate forum just as much as SJ so be aware.

I agree, like I said, it was exaggerated.

This is how it is, I’ve followed the whole lot over the last few days.

Basically, Col, as most of you know, has been getting abuse towards him about his family for several years now, even before I joined there. However, often Col never helped these situations by arguing/threatening etc, and majorly biting to these trolls.

This isn’t to say what the people said towards him was justified, but it was a “2 to tango” situation, with a constant back and forth. Quite alot.

Anyway, so it all kicked off again a few days ago, with “Use” making a thread “Col fucks his son up the arse”. This all got pretty exciting, resulting eventually, in Col saying he was off down there to kick him in. Use then posted, in a huge bout of gayness, and then flounced, never to be seen again.

During all this, Col said his Mrs saw the thread, and his mother.

Within the next day or 2 a few more threads surfaced with similar titles so Col went mental, and this time decided to take his allegations to the Web Hosts. These include, Abuse to Col, Child Porn, Organising Illegal Raves, and Drug Dealing. Col says it’s his Mrs’ idea, and not his, although he supports her. :you_crazy

As you can imagine, any support for Col against the trolls (Which was quite a few people, if not most non cunt posters, including myself), has now gone, as he’s basically potentially fucking SJ for good, and even worse.

What happens from now can only be speculated.

None of this is some suspicious secret, or anything like that. It’s on SJ for anyone that wants to read, and even confirmed by Richy Freeway (SJ Admin).

Phew there you go folks 😉

unfortunately the harsh reality is all forums now have to live in the real world and answer to real laws – its not 1994 any more when the internet was the toy of a group of male-dominated geeks what could get away with their idea of “free speech”.

in the same way a handful of angry men can fuck up a nightclub by letting off a CS gas or firing a gun and getting it closed down and a lot of innocent people lose out the same can just as easily happen online.. the smaller forums like SJ and PV don’t have big advertising backers like Mixmag or the legal teams of Facebook or Bebo – the sellers of glowsticks or whatever else is being sold here now that people take the piss off are doesn’t even cover all the costs of the the terabytes of music people leech from here….

TBH I doubt if Richy would even be “made” to close down SJ, its much more likely if the hosts are concerned that he will be advised to ensure content complies with whatever UK and EU laws apply, and to respond to users complaints / co-operate with law enforcement in extreme situations. A lot of it hinges on how much SJ is worth in business / profit terms to the hosting company. It would then be up to him and/or whoever else pays the hosting fees to either do this, or if they consider it too much of a infringement on their free speech to close down the site/find another hosting company.

@General Lighting 374002 wrote:

doesn’t even cover all the costs of the the terabytes of music people leech from here….

isnt that subscribers only now?

I thought they all just took the piss out of each other didn’t realise people took it personally :(.

Sure even if they lose their host they can find another the bittorrent sites manage it!

@1984 374009 wrote:

I thought they all just took the piss out of each other didn’t realise people took it personally :(.

At the last SE England warehouse rave I went to in 2007 all my old mates from Reading and the surrounding were sat in a circle and must have spent a entire hour talking about all the stuff what had been posted on SJ and how it had wrecked many real life friendships – this sort of bullshit was one of the reasons I have almost (but not quite) totally fucked off the rave scene and just concentrate on my “boring” normal life these days which currently seems to be way better…

@1984 374014 wrote:

well that sucks I always thought everything was one big windup and in jokes and stuff. Didn’t realise people were actually being horrible to each other. Damn I am fast.

To be fair from 2003-2005 it used to be a lot more like that, it was not dissimilar to how PV is now.