Forums The Vibe Chat I’m Well Prepared for our NYE Party

Viewing 22 posts - 1 through 22 (of 22 total)
  • Author
    Posts
  • #1046270
    djrichie_t
    Participant

      even if the town goes dark at midnight i got the backup diesel genny ready to plug in so we can still party in the studio!

      mad aint i lol! only cos i installed this changeover switch in our house and want to use it lol!

      #1190093
      Acidfairy
      Participant

        That’s well smart… nice work there Richie :love:

        #1190094
        djrichie_t
        Participant

          it was a bargain off ebay so i couldnt let it go lol, them 100 amp changeover switches usually cost hundreds. Plus i had to add my mod, lights, mains on alarm with silence switch u kno how it goes lol!

          #1190105
          little luke
          Participant

            I hope you have the required certification to be installing such electrical equipment in your own home.

            #1190095
            djrichie_t
            Participant

              @little luke 266692 wrote:

              I hope you have the required certification to be installing such electrical equipment in your own home.

              I’m a fully qualified electrical engineer, authorised to work on any installations and distribution systems upto 132,000 volts. Yes i issue certs too.

              #1190106
              little luke
              Participant

                That’s ok then! Being an electrical/electronic engineer myself (albeit a design engineer and an not installation engineer) it does worry me that peopple do DIY electrics on their homes and don’t fully know the score.

                #1190096
                djrichie_t
                Participant

                  lol yeah i know what u mean, i did full apprenticeship with the electricity board when i left school, qualified as electrical fitter (craftsman), then onto an electrical engineer – then 2 years later got laid off lol!

                  I seen some well dodgy stuff in my time even dodgy work carried out by NIC registered contractors which makes me laugh, work isnt as thorough as it used to be. Some of the ppl doin electrical installation courses nowadays get the answers to the exams given to them just to make the college have a high pass rate which is scary! 😮

                  #1190108
                  DontBeliveTheHype
                  Participant
                    djrichie_t;266759 wrote:
                    lol yeah i know what u mean, i did full apprenticeship with the electricity board when i left school, qualified as electrical fitter (craftsman), then onto an electrical engineer – then 2 years later got laid off lol!

                    I seen some well dodgy stuff in my time even dodgy work carried out by NIC registered contractors which makes me laugh, work isnt as thorough as it used to be. Some of the ppl doin electrical installation courses nowadays get the answers to the exams given to them just to make the college have a high pass rate which is scary! 😮

                    yeah when i was doing an electrical and mechanical enginering aprentaship there was this one girl on my cource (happened to be my girlfriend at the time :laugh_at:) that really couldn’t do any of the work .. but as she was the only girl on the cource the teachers basicaly did all her work for her to make sure she passed .. that made the class a bit p’d off .. but unfortunatly it’s not about teaching any more .. more about results .. no matter how you get them

                    #1190097
                    djrichie_t
                    Participant

                      its when u see sparkies pass an installation, issue a cert and in no way should they have even attempted the installation let alone certify it.

                      Simplest way of telling if some1 knows what they are doing, if there is room in the terminal, then conductors should always be doubled over in the back of socket outlets etc…. can cause probs over time if people dont bother with this. Very basic thing to remember at college.

                      Another one, dont use those little insulated crimp connectors on solid conductors (like 2.5mm T&E) as they wear loose after time.

                      Yet i often see much more dodgier stuff than this it makes me cringe… 1.5mm 3core and earth 2 on live, other and earth on neut feeding a 7kW leccy shower. and this was done by an NICEIC registered spark… spoke to NIC telling them and they were like ‘well he is registered so it must have been done properly’ Soon changed when i had to tell them what letters i had after my name lol!

                      theres loads more to this but i wont keep on ranting lol!

                      #1190103
                      Raj
                      Participant

                        Worst electrical install I ever saw was at a venue where they had hijacked the mains from another building and there was no fuseboard in the circuits anywhere :you_crazy amazing

                        #1190098
                        djrichie_t
                        Participant

                          @Raj 267042 wrote:

                          Worst electrical install I ever saw was at a venue where they had hijacked the mains from another building and there was no fuseboard in the circuits anywhere :you_crazy amazing

                          lol yeah or the classic one where some silly twat decides to wire individual circuits straight onto the comb (busbar) on a cu rather than through a fuse/mcb

                          #1190104
                          Raj
                          Participant

                            Seen one of those too :hiding:

                            #1190089
                            Anonymous

                              while were on the subgect what do i need to build to get a circit breaker fuse box type thing to go between my generator and sockets? i also want surge protection other than whats on the extention leads & something to regulate the current abit more.

                              #1190109
                              DontBeliveTheHype
                              Participant
                                djrichie_t;267037 wrote:
                                Simplest way of telling if some1 knows what they are doing, if there is room in the terminal, then conductors should always be doubled over in the back of socket outlets etc…. can cause probs over time if people dont bother with this. Very basic thing to remember at college.

                                yeah that was the first thing i was taugh in instalation .. and my tutor was good with that as it goes as he would not pass a circuit unless it was done this way …. but he was color blind (guess thats why he was a teacher and not a propper spark).. used to have to ask the pupils what color certain wires were and what color the bord maker he was using was :laugh_at: but thats another story haha

                                #1190099
                                djrichie_t
                                Participant

                                  @MrAHC 267070 wrote:

                                  while were on the subgect what do i need to build to get a circit breaker fuse box type thing to go between my generator and sockets? i also want surge protection other than whats on the extention leads & something to regulate the current abit more.

                                  What sorta genny is it, single/3phase and is it diesel?

                                  #1190090
                                  Anonymous
                                    djrichie_t;267101 wrote:
                                    What sorta genny is it, single/3phase and is it diesel?

                                    duno its a honda petrol 4.5 kva someone told me what it was but i forgot

                                    #1190100
                                    djrichie_t
                                    Participant

                                      Sure thing, Yeah i always advise people to use diesel generators as petrol gennies are always surging. Problem is that the engines do not run as steady and cause fluctuations in the alternator which are still sine wave, and as such any surge protector will not stop these type of surges.

                                      Petrol gennies are only really meant for non-sensitive power tools and such like. A second hand lister diesel is what you need they can be as cheap as £300 and can run on used cooking oil 🙂 Much safer/less of a fire risk too.

                                      As for using an outlet with circuit breakers theres loads of different options available. Depends really how much you want to spend theres simple in-line rcd’s or you can make your own board up out of a small consumer unit – just have two RCBO’s one going to each double socket, with an incomong lead that plugs into the genny. RCBO is best option as each one provides overcurrent/earth protection independantly, an inline rcd will be ok but will cut everything off.

                                      Important….. Always make sure the genny is properly earthed with an earth rod and… to be 100% safe the earth and neutral must be joined inside the genny. This will mimic your normal mains supply and will ensure any RCD works as it should. Some sparkies may disagree or be unsure but the science is there to prove it!

                                      #1190107
                                      little luke
                                      Participant
                                        djrichie_t;267044 wrote:
                                        lol yeah or the classic one where some silly twat decides to wire individual circuits straight onto the comb (busbar) on a cu rather than through a fuse/mcb

                                        That’s criminal. The first bit of design I do on a panel is always the fuse protection for anything that’s being fed off the busbars.

                                        #1190091
                                        Anonymous
                                          djrichie_t;267162 wrote:
                                          Important….. Always make sure the genny is properly earthed with an earth rod and… to be 100% safe the earth and neutral must be joined inside the genny. This will mimic your normal mains supply and will ensure any RCD works as it should. Some sparkies may disagree or be unsure but the science is there to prove it!

                                          Mines alreay earthed to the frame or has no earth option or I dont know how to do it.

                                          I have no idea about what all them rcd ect is. lol

                                          can you give some advice in laymans tearms so i can understand

                                          #1190101
                                          djrichie_t
                                          Participant

                                            Easiest way to overcome this problem is to buy one of these…..

                                            VAN STOCK UK. MCB / RCD Protected distribution 110v / 240v

                                            The first or 2nd one whichever you prefer. When you get it, unscrew the plug (that goes into the genny) and link the neutral and earth together. this will provide your neutral/earth link.

                                            Clearly label the lead ‘neutral/earth linked – generator use only!’

                                            And to earth the generator get an earth rod into the ground and link with a piece of wire (2.5mm earth cable min for 16 amp) from the rod to the generator earth point (or any part of the alternator metalwork if theres no earth point)

                                            That will give you the protection you need, so if there was ever an earth fault that could cause a shock the RCD (Residual Current Device) will trip.

                                            HANDY TIP!…. When putting an earth rod in soil, take a piss on the ground before you put the rod in. it will make better earth resistance and…. if you have had a few cans of stella, the chemicals in that once gone through you give even better resistance! (good old electricity board advice that one!)

                                            #1190092
                                            Anonymous
                                              djrichie_t;267213 wrote:
                                              Easiest way to overcome this problem is to buy one of these…..

                                              VAN STOCK UK. MCB / RCD Protected distribution 110v / 240v

                                              The first or 2nd one whichever you prefer. When you get it, unscrew the plug (that goes into the genny) and link the neutral and earth together. this will provide your neutral/earth link.

                                              Clearly label the lead ‘neutral/earth linked – generator use only!’

                                              And to earth the generator get an earth rod into the ground and link with a piece of wire (2.5mm earth cable min for 16 amp) from the rod to the generator earth point (or any part of the alternator metalwork if theres no earth point)

                                              That will give you the protection you need, so if there was ever an earth fault that could cause a shock the RCD (Residual Current Device) will trip.

                                              HANDY TIP!…. When putting an earth rod in soil, take a piss on the ground before you put the rod in. it will make better earth resistance and…. if you have had a few cans of stella, the chemicals in that once gone through you give even better resistance! (good old electricity board advice that one!)

                                              I’m not alowed stella coz i eat cars if i drink it! will carling do?

                                              #1190102
                                              djrichie_t
                                              Participant

                                                haha i think pretty much any beer has similar stuff in it, just stella always worked better for me lol!

                                                Which beer gives the best readings…. hmmm maybe this should go to brainiac hahahaha

                                              Viewing 22 posts - 1 through 22 (of 22 total)
                                              • You must be logged in to reply to this topic.

                                              Forums The Vibe Chat I’m Well Prepared for our NYE Party