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    starlaugh
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      I know a few of you will have seen Gordon Ramseys program of the name of this thread. Just think back to the states you saw some of the kitchens…

      Ok now I have set the image in your head I will carry on, I am friends with the land lord and the head chef of my local pub and I have been helping them out since they got the pub back in April. They seem to be completely oblivious to any food and hygiene law there is, this is both in the kitchen and the bar.

      Well I have spent the whole time they have had the pub advising them and trying to clean the place to make it hygienic. I have warned them every week that someone is going to get ill eating or drinking from this pub, They rest the clean glass trays on top of the open bins, I am forever throwing out food that has grown some funky hair cuts and gone some proper psychedelic colours, the fridge seals are full of rotting food, the floor looks like it only ever gets cleaned by me. I have advised all my friends and family not to eat in there, some is going to be seriously ill from this place.

      I feel a right c**t as I called the environmental health office and they are sending an EHO out to do an inspection next week, I am now in two minds whether to tell them to give them time to sort thier acts out or to leave it and let them get the full brunt of it.

      I feel harsh as this could f**k them both up, but this is my village pub and I am seriously concerned for the health of the people who eat there.

      Do you think I should warn them??

      #1178437
      General Lighting
      Moderator

        No. You have done your best, now let the proper authorities do their work.

        The EHOs tend to give people at least one chance, and even if they lose their business and you lose some friends, you have still done the right thing.

        A lot of my relatives work in NHS South Central. They are stretched to the limit at weekends, they have to pick up the pieces if anyone gets ill and every taxpayer has to pay for it.

        #1178453
        Digital-A
        Participant

          Questions may be asked as to why you have not reported it when you knew they were in the wrong. I would cover your own back and write a report stating you have (try and remember dates/occasions etc) when you have spoken to them and its gone unheeded.

          best to cover your own arse mate 🙂

          #1178438
          General Lighting
          Moderator

            be aware also that if there is the slightest chance the people you turned in know of your weekend activities or that you use this site, they have every right to notify TVP you may be a recreational drug user as a tit for tat action.

            Of course cops can’t nick you without evidence, but I’d be careful what is stashed in the house and when exiting from or going to venues….

            #1178446
            starlaugh
            Participant
              General Lighting;233266 wrote:
              be aware also that if there is the slightest chance the people you turned in know of your weekend activities or that you use this site, they have every right to notify TVP you may be a recreational drug user as a tit for tat action.

              Of course cops can’t nick you without evidence, but I’d be careful what is stashed in the house and when exiting from or going to venues….

              Well I think they know about my weekend antics, well the head chef there does but that is fine… He would know better than to start a stupid tit for tat war with me, it would likely screw him over. They are both over 40 and are not very computer literate either.

              I would never keep any drugs or drug paraphernalia in my house or car as I know better than that, its not something I would get caught out with I dont think.

              Digital-A wrote:
              Questions may be asked as to why you have not reported it when you knew they were in the wrong. I would cover your own back and write a report stating you have (try and remember dates/occasions etc) when you have spoken to them and its gone unheeded.

              best to cover your own arse mate 🙂

              I am not there any more and I told the EHO that I have been helping there as a favour, I told them that I have been trying my hardest and warning them about the standards.

              Once I had been in the kitchen I would leave it in a state that an EHO would be happy with (well minus the door seals and some other equipment that damaged cleaning is impossible) but a week later I would be finding mouldy food again and it would be a shit hole.

              I do have a feeling that I am going to be fucked over for something by them, but realistically its the only thing I can do. But no one knows I have reported them well apart from a friend who has also put in a complaint as she worked there.

              The EHO did say my name would not be mentioned at all and it will remain anonymous.

              #1178440
              Raj
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                EHOs are usually very good to people to work with and absolute bast’rds if you try and ignore them. TBH I can completely understand why you did it.

                Do be whiter than white at home etc – clean out anything which could be in any way incriminating as it would be a right nightmare to get shopped and something was found

                #1178447
                starlaugh
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                  Raj;233273 wrote:
                  EHOs are usually very good to people to work with and absolute bast’rds if you try and ignore them. TBH I can completely understand why you did it.

                  Do be whiter than white at home etc – clean out anything which could be in any way incriminating as it would be a right nightmare to get shopped and something was found

                  Rooms always spotless, parents are far too nosey :laugh_at:

                  #1178471
                  fishpaste
                  Participant

                    i’ve worked in places wher they pick food up off the floor and serve it to customers:yakk:

                    #1178464
                    DaftFader
                    Participant
                      starlaugh;233261 wrote:
                      I know a few of you will have seen Gordon Ramseys program of the name of this thread. Just think back to the states you saw some of the kitchens…

                      Ok now I have set the image in your head I will carry on, I am friends with the land lord and the head chef of my local pub and I have been helping them out since they got the pub back in April. They seem to be completely oblivious to any food and hygiene law there is, this is both in the kitchen and the bar.

                      Well I have spent the whole time they have had the pub advising them and trying to clean the place to make it hygienic. I have warned them every week that someone is going to get ill eating or drinking from this pub, They rest the clean glass trays on top of the open bins, I am forever throwing out food that has grown some funky hair cuts and gone some proper psychedelic colours, the fridge seals are full of rotting food, the floor looks like it only ever gets cleaned by me. I have advised all my friends and family not to eat in there, some is going to be seriously ill from this place.

                      I feel a right c**t as I called the environmental health office and they are sending an EHO out to do an inspection next week, I am now in two minds whether to tell them to give them time to sort thier acts out or to leave it and let them get the full brunt of it.

                      I feel harsh as this could f**k them both up, but this is my village pub and I am seriously concerned for the health of the people who eat there.

                      Do you think I should warn them??

                      you didn’t tell me this when i ate there :hopeless: .. lol .. but in all seriosness .. you did the right thing .. i used to work as a chef and i know how important this stuff is .. i have quit jobs because of the hygine in kitchens i have worked in b4 .. sadly alot of kitchens just dont give a fuck about this kind of stuff .. especialy when alot of the staff are getting paied minimum or close to minimum wage .. they them selves just dont give a crap .. tbh .. there is no point in warning them as all that will happen is they will get a warning to sought it out b4 a revisit .. that should give them the kick up the ass htey need .. if it is that bad .. they will get closed down untill they fix it .. but it has to be really .. and i meen really bad for them to do that .. and they will be able to reopen after ..i think they only shut kithens down perminently if they ignore the warnings given to them .. no wonder i got lost on the way back from uktek after that psycadelic colored burger you cooked me :laugh_at:

                      #1178448
                      starlaugh
                      Participant
                        DaftFader;233280 wrote:
                        you didn’t tell me this when i ate there :hopeless: .. lol .. .. no wonder i got lost on the way back from uktek after that psycadelic colored burger you cooked me :laugh_at:

                        Nah mate the food you ate was all safe, I was in control of the kitchen that weekend. I knew it was going to be very busy and I was not allowing them to make a huge fuck up…

                        #1178442
                        Angel
                        Moderator

                          In Denmark we get health control (not sure about the name) visiting all places that serves food twice a year and they just turn up one day, so you really can’t just clean everything 2 days before they are supposed to come.

                          Never know when they’ll be there, so the hygiene in every places I have ever worked have been good.

                          Not sure if you use the smilie system in UK but we get a smilie
                          and the paper with the smilie have to be placed in the reception for all guests to see

                          4smileys.gif

                          #1178443
                          Angel
                          Moderator

                            And SL..

                            You did the right thing,I would do the same

                            #1178454
                            GiantMidget
                            Participant

                              You’ve done the right thing Star. If they lack the respect for their customers by ignoring hygiene protocols then they need to receive a complete bollocking.

                              If you warn them then the cycle will continue and someone will get ill. Personally I’d just sit back and watch the whole show go off! 😉

                              #1178461
                              JonnyQuest
                              Participant
                                starlaugh;233261 wrote:
                                I know a few of you will have seen Gordon Ramseys program of the name of this thread. Just think back to the states you saw some of the kitchens…

                                Ok now I have set the image in your head I will carry on, I am friends with the land lord and the head chef of my local pub and I have been helping them out since they got the pub back in April. They seem to be completely oblivious to any food and hygiene law there is, this is both in the kitchen and the bar.

                                Well I have spent the whole time they have had the pub advising them and trying to clean the place to make it hygienic. I have warned them every week that someone is going to get ill eating or drinking from this pub, They rest the clean glass trays on top of the open bins, I am forever throwing out food that has grown some funky hair cuts and gone some proper psychedelic colours, the fridge seals are full of rotting food, the floor looks like it only ever gets cleaned by me. I have advised all my friends and family not to eat in there, some is going to be seriously ill from this place.

                                I feel a right c**t as I called the environmental health office and they are sending an EHO out to do an inspection next week, I am now in two minds whether to tell them to give them time to sort thier acts out or to leave it and let them get the full brunt of it.

                                I feel harsh as this could f**k them both up, but this is my village pub and I am seriously concerned for the health of the people who eat there.

                                Do you think I should warn them??

                                ah comon man NEVER GRASS should do somthing bout this man cant fuck people up like that

                                #1178449
                                starlaugh
                                Participant
                                  JonnyQuest;233480 wrote:
                                  ah comon man NEVER GRASS should do somthing bout this man cant fuck people up like that

                                  I wouldn’t normally, but if you look at it this way. On average they are cooking 60+ meals a day, so this is a fuck load of people who are eating food which can be damaging to their health. I have warned them on numerous occasions about the standards, I don’t want people I know getting ill because two blokes are incapable of hygienically running a pub.

                                  If you got ill eating somewhere dodgy you would kick up a stick, I am saving someone the fucking horrible feeling that is food poisoning….

                                  #1178455
                                  GiantMidget
                                  Participant
                                    JonnyQuest;233480 wrote:
                                    ah comon man NEVER GRASS should do somthing bout this man cant fuck people up like that

                                    You can when it comes to people’s health mate.

                                    #1178444
                                    Tank Girl
                                    Participant
                                      JonnyQuest;233480 wrote:
                                      ah comon man NEVER GRASS should do somthing bout this man cant fuck people up like that

                                      something as ‘simple’ as food poisoning (or flu etc)
                                      can kill an elderly person / child who’s body isnt up to fighting it
                                      if you can do something to improve this I think in this occasion it is ok to contact the health authorities –

                                      the management should be keeping a clean kitchen as a matter of daily standard and they are at fault for not doing so –

                                      #1178450
                                      starlaugh
                                      Participant

                                        I have given them a load of information on how to run a food establishment and also shown them where they can get their hygiene training… I am meeting with them tomorrow as they want me to meet up with them and have a chat, I also gave them a huge letter explaining the severity of hygiene of the place

                                        #1178472
                                        Dasein
                                        Participant

                                          I don’t know how it is there, but in the US, if health inspectors give an unfavorable review of a restaurant’s cleanliness and general condition, there’s typically a probation period for the the restaurant owners to clean everything up, fix any code violations, etc.

                                          You shouldn’t feel like a snitch for calling this in. Regardless of your intentions, even if you had called the authorities out of spite, you’d still be doing something good for all the people who eat there and ultimately, you might be saving your friend the trouble of a lawsuit sometime down the road.

                                          #1178465
                                          DaftFader
                                          Participant
                                            starlaugh;233292 wrote:
                                            Nah mate the food you ate was all safe, I was in control of the kitchen that weekend. I knew it was going to be very busy and I was not allowing them to make a huge fuck up…

                                            i know m8 😉

                                            #1178466
                                            DaftFader
                                            Participant
                                              JonnyQuest;233480 wrote:
                                              ah comon man NEVER GRASS should do somthing bout this man cant fuck people up like that

                                              wait till you get food poisoning and then turn around and preach to people that they should cover up bad things that can fuck peaople up cos of some higher power called law of the “PLAY GROUND” MUG! :yakk:

                                              #1178462
                                              JonnyQuest
                                              Participant
                                                DaftFader;233593 wrote:
                                                wait till you get food poisoning and then turn around and preach to people that they should cover up bad things that can fuck peaople up cos of some higher power called law of the “PLAY GROUND” MUG! :yakk:

                                                aint no law of the playground thats a law of life mate, no offence meant to starlaugh mind you seem like a sound guy just reckon theres better ways to solve problems than telling the authoirtys

                                                #1178445
                                                Tank Girl
                                                Participant
                                                  JonnyQuest;233617 wrote:
                                                  aint no law of the playground thats a law of life mate,

                                                  IMO – it’s difficult being so black and white in your thinking if you think people are at risk though

                                                  #1178439
                                                  elretardo87
                                                  Participant
                                                    JonnyQuest;233617 wrote:
                                                    aint no law of the playground thats a law of life mate, no offence meant to starlaugh mind you seem like a sound guy just reckon theres better ways to solve problems than telling the authoirtys

                                                    Applying gangsta politics to hygiene is a bit stupid tbh. I mean its not as if your getting people banged up for it and you can hardly take a possy round and sort it out yourself…..”yeh blud keep it clean or I’ll be back round to pop a cap in yo ass”

                                                    #1178467
                                                    DaftFader
                                                    Participant
                                                      JonnyQuest;233617 wrote:
                                                      aint no law of the playground thats a law of life mate, no offence meant to starlaugh mind you seem like a sound guy just reckon theres better ways to solve problems than telling the authoirtys

                                                      the reason i feel so strong about it is i used to work as a chef .. so i know how imperitive it is to have good hygine .. and if there not listerning to starlaugh at the place he works .. then he has no other choise then to do what he did

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