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November 23, 2007 at 1:26 am #1042945
A friend recently got busted with a LARGE amount of lsd crystal and his friends who had the financial means managed to chip together and invest in a lawyer who specialises in resolving prosecutions associated with psychedelic drugs.
I am going to university next year to read law and I am toying with the idea of specialising in a similar sort of area.
Does anybody on p.v have any idea of what this would involve? Any advice in general? I do not know where to start tbh but it’s an area that fascinates me I’d appreciate to hear any tales you have or any pointers in the right direction.
Cheers.November 23, 2007 at 8:57 am #1125284what happened to your mate, did the the lawyer get him off?
November 23, 2007 at 8:57 am #1146214what happened to your mate, did the the lawyer get him off?
November 24, 2007 at 1:45 pm #1125286Not sure in England – there is a scots lawyer who specialises in drugs in Edinburgh though. He qualified to save his mates being jailed for stuff like that.
November 24, 2007 at 1:45 pm #1146216Not sure in England – there is a scots lawyer who specialises in drugs in Edinburgh though. He qualified to save his mates being jailed for stuff like that.
November 24, 2007 at 1:56 pm #1125287taking pschedelics is a start
November 24, 2007 at 1:56 pm #1146217taking pschedelics is a start
November 25, 2007 at 12:03 am #1125283Playground Politics wrote:taking pschedelics is a startI think him and his friends have already passed that bit of the course :laugh_at::laugh_at:(been out partying with them a few times)
Seriously though fair play Scouse for taking this direction in life. It seems there are some peopel both of us know who are gonna need your assistance!
TBH I think the best start would be a basic grounding in criminal law and human rights law.
IMO the current state of the law is that not so much the drugs which are the issue (they are mere chemical substances) but a view of conventional society that recreational drugs use is harmful and therefore should be restricted by law as users of such substances are perceived to impact on others human rights by their actions.
so it would be a matter of showing that the users/dealers of these substances are not actually trying to wreck society but to improve it..
November 25, 2007 at 12:03 am #1146213Playground Politics wrote:taking pschedelics is a startI think him and his friends have already passed that bit of the course :laugh_at::laugh_at:(been out partying with them a few times)
Seriously though fair play Scouse for taking this direction in life. It seems there are some peopel both of us know who are gonna need your assistance!
TBH I think the best start would be a basic grounding in criminal law and human rights law.
IMO the current state of the law is that not so much the drugs which are the issue (they are mere chemical substances) but a view of conventional society that recreational drugs use is harmful and therefore should be restricted by law as users of such substances are perceived to impact on others human rights by their actions.
so it would be a matter of showing that the users/dealers of these substances are not actually trying to wreck society but to improve it..
November 25, 2007 at 8:22 pm #1125288djprocess wrote:what happened to your mate, did the the lawyer get him off?He did a bit of time, < 1year which was pretty amazing considering they were attempting to do him under terrorism laws. Apparently he had enough cid to send a whole town tripping for days if it entered the water supply.
That’s a load of bollox though because the fluoride neutralises the molecule and you’d have to be pretty nuts a hundred grands worth of drugs away.
I think he got caught with a few K’s of mud but didn’t bother charging him as they thought he’d go down hard with the acid.General Lighting wrote:IMO the current state of the law is that not so much the drugs which are the issue (they are mere chemical substances) but a view of conventional society that recreational drugs use is harmful and therefore should be restricted by law as users of such substances are perceived to impact on others human rights by their actions.so it would be a matter of showing that the users/dealers of these substances are not actually trying to wreck society but to improve it..
Drugs law in this country just isn’t fit for purpose. Anybody with the slightest bit of intelligence sees that it’s doing far more harm than good…
Can the government not realise that the war on drugs is well and truly lost?
I’m sure everyone reading this post could go out and score whatever they wanted without to much hassle?There’s hundreds of thousands who use recreational drugs safely every weekend with hardly any implications. Compare the few who do have problems with casualty wards country wide full of piss heads who’ve injured them selves or others.
When It comes to heroin and crack, I do agree that the streets need to be cleaned of them. But prohibition obvioulsy doesn’t work.
Why do they place these substances which have the potential to kill and wreck lives in the hands of gangsters and criminals who only care about how much money they’re making. It’s like passing a kid a loaded gun :you_crazyJust think about all the petty crimes a smackhead commits in the space of a year. I’m willing to bet it’s hundreds. Why not let him walk into a centre a few times a day to get his hit in a safe and regulated manner? think of all the hookers who wouldn’t have to risk their lives whilst selling their bodies every night…
The NHS is experiencing a massive morphine shortage as it is.
Why doesn’t it just buy the bloody stuff straight from Afghanistan for a fair price instead of crop spraying their livelihood?Society needs to wake up imo!
There’s those who would argue that legalising drugs would only make people want to do them more…
Not so according to studies in Holland where they’ve since usage decrease after they legalised it.
Also, think of the money the Inland revenue could rake in selling safe pills and grit free weed over the counter whilst giving people beneficial advice…
and the benefits to psychotherapy if they could give their clients some acid or mdma in a session. This is how these substances where originally utilised in the first place in the states.
November 25, 2007 at 8:22 pm #1146218djprocess wrote:what happened to your mate, did the the lawyer get him off?He did a bit of time, < 1year which was pretty amazing considering they were attempting to do him under terrorism laws. Apparently he had enough cid to send a whole town tripping for days if it entered the water supply.
That’s a load of bollox though because the fluoride neutralises the molecule and you’d have to be pretty nuts a hundred grands worth of drugs away.
I think he got caught with a few K’s of mud but didn’t bother charging him as they thought he’d go down hard with the acid.General Lighting wrote:IMO the current state of the law is that not so much the drugs which are the issue (they are mere chemical substances) but a view of conventional society that recreational drugs use is harmful and therefore should be restricted by law as users of such substances are perceived to impact on others human rights by their actions.so it would be a matter of showing that the users/dealers of these substances are not actually trying to wreck society but to improve it..
Drugs law in this country just isn’t fit for purpose. Anybody with the slightest bit of intelligence sees that it’s doing far more harm than good…
Can the government not realise that the war on drugs is well and truly lost?
I’m sure everyone reading this post could go out and score whatever they wanted without to much hassle?There’s hundreds of thousands who use recreational drugs safely every weekend with hardly any implications. Compare the few who do have problems with casualty wards country wide full of piss heads who’ve injured them selves or others.
When It comes to heroin and crack, I do agree that the streets need to be cleaned of them. But prohibition obvioulsy doesn’t work.
Why do they place these substances which have the potential to kill and wreck lives in the hands of gangsters and criminals who only care about how much money they’re making. It’s like passing a kid a loaded gun :you_crazyJust think about all the petty crimes a smackhead commits in the space of a year. I’m willing to bet it’s hundreds. Why not let him walk into a centre a few times a day to get his hit in a safe and regulated manner? think of all the hookers who wouldn’t have to risk their lives whilst selling their bodies every night…
The NHS is experiencing a massive morphine shortage as it is.
Why doesn’t it just buy the bloody stuff straight from Afghanistan for a fair price instead of crop spraying their livelihood?Society needs to wake up imo!
There’s those who would argue that legalising drugs would only make people want to do them more…
Not so according to studies in Holland where they’ve since usage decrease after they legalised it.
Also, think of the money the Inland revenue could rake in selling safe pills and grit free weed over the counter whilst giving people beneficial advice…
and the benefits to psychotherapy if they could give their clients some acid or mdma in a session. This is how these substances where originally utilised in the first place in the states.
November 26, 2007 at 9:15 am #1125285Scouse wrote:He did a bit of time, < 1year which was pretty amazing considering they were attempting to do him under terrorism laws. Apparently he had enough cid to send a whole town tripping for days if it entered the water supply.
That’s a load of bollox though because the fluoride neutralises the molecule and you’d have to be pretty nuts a hundred grands worth of drugs away.
I think he got caught with a few K’s of mud but didn’t bother charging him as they thought he’d go down hard with the acid.Thats pretty good getting him just a year. My mate recently got nicked with about 30 bottles of liquid and some other bits. Looks like they are only going to do him for the cid. When he first got busted he told them there was only about 30 drops in each one and it looks like they are having problems testing them. Dont know why, but it seems to be taking them ages, he’s been on bail for about 6 months now.
November 26, 2007 at 9:15 am #1146215Scouse wrote:He did a bit of time, < 1year which was pretty amazing considering they were attempting to do him under terrorism laws. Apparently he had enough cid to send a whole town tripping for days if it entered the water supply.
That’s a load of bollox though because the fluoride neutralises the molecule and you’d have to be pretty nuts a hundred grands worth of drugs away.
I think he got caught with a few K’s of mud but didn’t bother charging him as they thought he’d go down hard with the acid.Thats pretty good getting him just a year. My mate recently got nicked with about 30 bottles of liquid and some other bits. Looks like they are only going to do him for the cid. When he first got busted he told them there was only about 30 drops in each one and it looks like they are having problems testing them. Dont know why, but it seems to be taking them ages, he’s been on bail for about 6 months now.
November 26, 2007 at 12:19 pm #1125282Anonymous
that thing about the water supply is so stupid, thats like in that recent batman film. “batman terrerism”
intresting stuff good on yaNovember 26, 2007 at 12:19 pm #1146212that thing about the water supply is so stupid, thats like in that recent batman film. “batman terrerism”
intresting stuff good on ya -
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