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May 25, 2006 at 4:17 pm #1037948
stax
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im looking to aquire some decks.

i have a budget of about 300 maybe pushing to 350

what do u suggest.

new ones 2nd hand ones?

makes?

open to suggestions
May 25, 2006 at 4:53 pm #1074907
Raj
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we owned ariston belt drives [for 4 years approx]
and now we have technics 1210 mk2s

while the belt drives werent as nice as the technics are, you learn to cope and they are well cheaper [when you get a better deck its like moving from driving a mini to a good saloon]
we took the belt drives out to free parties and they handled it

it will depend how serious you are and how much experience you have

the most common and widely proclaimed decks are the technics and they are pretty tough
[we have ours flightcased which is essential IMO if you want them to go anywhere as it saves stress to the owner and damage to the decks]

if you can get well looked after technics 2nd hand for the money it may be the best investment as you will learn on the standard equipment in use;
on the other hand if you cant look around at what is locally available and be cheeky and ask to try them
[if the sales staff think you are serious about buying they should be prepared to let you try them]

the disadvantage of a belt drive WRT direct drive is that it will be very hard to scratch on the belt drives; for scratching you will need a direct drive model [direct drive belt are driven by generating an electromagnetic field inside the deck which by varying its strength will turn the platter at different speeds

ok i am going to stop here
read this and ask me questions/ tell me what you want them for specifically as this will affect the rest of any advice i give you

:crazy_fre:crazy_fre:crazy_fre:horay:
May 29, 2006 at 3:43 pm #1074901
Tek Offensive
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definitely go second hand, although their is a little more risk, ie the decks are more likely to break etc…, it means you can get alot more for your money, i got my decks for 215 including mixer, whcih is very good considering they were about 350 each 2 years ago.
May 29, 2006 at 6:51 pm #1074908
Raj
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rajsuspect wrote:

ok i am going to stop here
read this and ask me questions/ tell me what you want them for specifically as this will affect the rest of any advice i give you

:crazy_fre:crazy_fre:crazy_fre:horay:

any questions ? more detail you’d like?
May 29, 2006 at 11:29 pm #1074900
BioTech
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I think “Grinner” on here was looking to sell some Vestax. Can’t remember what model or price though. I’ll give him a shout.
May 30, 2006 at 1:14 pm #1074902
stax
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hey

sorry for late response. been away since fri and no access to net since

basically there just gonna be in me room prob running thru my stereo . iv bin learning the ropes on me mates beltdrives ( effing belt drives!! ) which IMO are hard as f*** to learn on as keep jumping speeding up etc so surely if u can mix on belts u shud be ok with direct??? but thas it basically just for me to potter about on.

every 1 seems to be like ‘its got to technics man’ but i dont want to swan away a load of dolla if not 100% necercery ( just a tightwad really )
May 30, 2006 at 3:06 pm #1074903
stax
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BioTech wrote:

I think “Grinner” on here was looking to sell some Vestax. Can’t remember what model or price though. I’ll give him a shout.

cool nice1. ur in the area aswell :bigsmile:
May 30, 2006 at 3:50 pm #1074909
Raj
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stax wrote:

hey

basically there just gonna be in me room prob running thru my stereo . iv bin learning the ropes on me mates beltdrives ( effing belt drives!! ) which IMO are hard as f*** to learn on as keep jumping speeding up etc so surely if u can mix on belts u shud be ok with direct??? but thas it basically just for me to potter about on.

i would agree that beltdrives are good to potter about on;

we had them for a ages and getting technics just made mixing a walk in the park; if you can mix on beltdrives there will be short [very short] getting used to technics period and then you will be laughing all the way to the mixer:bigsmile::bigsmile::bigsmile:

if you can mix well on the belts you will be fine on direct drives; belt drives require more subtle motor control and delicate mixing than technics :bigsmile::bigsmile:

:crazy_fre:crazy_fre:crazy_fre
May 30, 2006 at 4:01 pm #1074904
stax
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yer i really dont understand why they make belt drives supose they alot cheaper to make ?? any way DirectDrive here i come:surprised
May 30, 2006 at 4:11 pm #1074910
Raj
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stax wrote:

yer i really dont understand why they make belt drives supose they alot cheaper to make ?? any way DirectDrive here i come:surprised

belt drives are driven by a motor which you can buy as a manufactured part and a belt linking this to the spindle = cheap to make

directdrive are driven using electromagnets and magnetic platters; the catch here is that the electromagnetic bits are patented by the the companies, like technics, that invented them so you essentially have to reinvent the mechanism because buying them is to expensive …:crazy_fre:crazy_fre:crazy_fre

and lets face it everyone knows which the standard deck is dont they?:crazy_fre:crazy_fre:crazy_fre
May 30, 2006 at 4:15 pm #1074899
General Lighting
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yeah, belt drives are way cheaper as they have smaller motors..

anyone know what the numark direct drives are like? thinking of getting a set of decks in the next few months, can’t afford technics though..
June 5, 2006 at 12:57 pm #1074905
stax
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got a pair of numark 1510s in the end off a chap at work. they seem to do the job ok and only 150 inc mixer
June 5, 2006 at 5:30 pm #1074911
Raj
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stax wrote:

got a pair of numark 1510s in the end off a chap at work. they seem to do the job ok and only 150 inc mixer

sound lush

happy mixing; hope to hear you on partyvibe radio in the future:bigsmile:

:crazy_fre
June 6, 2006 at 12:56 am #1074898
JE5
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save up a bit more and get some second hand Technics, you know it makes sense 😉
June 13, 2006 at 11:35 am #1074906
stax
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will let ya know when ready to go live:horay:

just got a job lot o vinyl too :bounce_m:

yer the 1510s are ok but i fink upgrade will be on the cards if i turn out to be any good ( used to play drums so i got an ear for music but will see )
June 13, 2006 at 1:43 pm #1074912
Raj
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stax wrote:

will let ya know when ready to go live:horay:

just got a job lot o vinyl too :bounce_m:

yer the 1510s are ok but i fink upgrade will be on the cards if i turn out to be any good ( used to play drums so i got an ear for music but will see )

excellent; nothing is more important to a band than a good drummer and that should give you an ear for mixing

looking forward to it:horay::horay::horay:
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