"Knowledge and Wisdom started, yeah, after I had been with previous labels, foundation jungle labels, labels that put out some of the first tracks back in '92, '93. Back then I was in a group called Noise Factory, yeah, and I had been around in the early days listening to hardcore tunes and underground tunes, certain underground classics. I was responsible for some of those underground classics. After time, moving around with other labels, I think I found my feet in 94, and I started Knowledge and Wisdom."

"Demolition Man and I are family, so it's like we've always been together, from way back, doing music. My father used to play in different sound systems, and I grew up around records, stuff like that, so it was a natural thing really going into music. I had a sound system when I was younger, playing reggae and hip hop, and so that was like a foundation for jungle, the mix of what people were listening to in London, hip hop, reggae, UK soul, everything. We had everything to listen to, so it was only natural for jungle to develop and to come from London since London youths had all these different types of music around them. When the technology came, and we started playing with it, the beats became faster and, man, jungle was coming, but no one at the time had a name for it, so for a little while, it was just something that we liked doing."

"The reason why I stayed with ragga is because to me, reggae is the foundation for all music and if you move away from the root, you lose the whole element of the music, yeah, and you end up taking away the core and you have nothing except for the shell with no substance. I take the raw element of reggae and keep that with the jungle because that's what got people liking jungle in the first place. It never came in the way people hear it now. There's nothing wrong with the way it is now, it had to grow, and there's nothing wrong with growing and expanding, that's what life is all about, but at the same time when you take away the natural ingredient, it becomes weak."

"OK, for a second let's get down to the base of these issues really . . . the reggae side of things in the UK is like a ruffneck element, hardcore reggae style. That style of music, was then stereotyped and it got branded and although people wanted to hear it, you didn't always hear it in the clubs. In the UK I keep a low profile for the fact that I had a certain height when I done 'Fire' and plus originally going back before Fire, I had done some underground tunes which to this day, if you play old school sets, you have to play them. So I'm not really on an old school level, it's just that I choose not to really be in that circle, should you say, like, of people that are known. If you know me, you know me, if you don't, well, you will eventually. I don't feel that I always have to be in the same arena as them, although one day it will come to that."

"Slowly but surely, I know that UK people are coming back around to the natural element. Before I came to Canada I went to three major events in the UK and all they played was 94 sets and we both know what 94 sets are. So why are all these big events going back to 94? What's wrong with? I can show you flyers of months of going back to 94 and the reason is people want entertainment now. As it was in the beginning, it will be in the end. The world is a circle and if it starts here, it's got to come back. Again, natural elements."

"A lot of people might of thought that we weren't around anymore, but we've been building up our music. All our ten inch dubs will soon be released as twelve's, and we're willing to start small again and grow. That's how this all started, a few men just building a different style of music and look where we are now, jungle is large."

"I've been doing underground music for years and I've been working with the Canadians for years, a company called SPG. I heard about Toronto way back since 93, 94, but I never imagined it would be the way it is. I mean, Canadian people, enough respect to you. This tells me that UK people are letting something slip and they don't realize it. I'd just like to say that there's so much love coming from the Canadian people and the way people received us and the way they treated us, I could never imagined, and it tells me that the music, jungle, is very strong here and it can influence and change people's lives. A girl came up to me after the set and told me that she had just passed her grades and that being there at that venue and taking a picture with me made her, you know, it meant so much to her and I'm grateful that I can do that for people through this music with people like Demolition Man and Frisky and all the other people associated with Knowledge and Wisdom. That's what music is for, it's to set people free and that's what this style of music is about. I think that this place has much potential and that this place is very cosmopolitan and the way people are living here gives me hope that there will be peace in the world. The amount of nations of people I've seen in this place and there's no violence, well maybe I haven't been here long enough, but what I've seen is amazing."

"I've been fortunate enough to travel this year and I've learned that the young people, universally, are all the same. There are no barriers. Everyone is riding on the one love vibe it seems at the moment regardless of what colour, race, shape, size, it doesn't matter. There's a great love, a oneness with the people, with the youth."

Well? It's intense, I know. Terry tells me that he wants a full three hour set when he comes back! "I need three hours with you lot!". Knowledge and Wisdom will be coming back soon. And when they do, that my friends will be one sick party, let me tell you. And, of course, TorontoJungle.com will be there in full to represent.